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« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »

Well... never mind about the crossout then... I guess I did send to Tolomeo. Just saw your reply.

I had poster's remorse, contemplated during the day because I remembered that wait a second... we kicked the pope out... he didn't leave of his own accord. ... silly stupid old Vittorio.  angry His mind is gone, what with all the VDs he's picked up over the years.

Also made a slight modification to the ship orders based on your clarification.
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« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2012, 11:53:50 PM »

Speech in Response to Arnold of Brescia

I, Fortis Calafatus, Consul of the Exterior would ask of a simple man of God to do what he does best. Care for the souls of men. Come with us to Tivoli and care for the souls of our militia. Bring your followers! You need not be as Ceasar, that worry will not fall upon you. More so, by the charity of others you shall have your own Honor Guard, so you need not fear for your own safety.

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Objective: Raze
Troops: Rural Levies: 70% + Arnold's Followers  Urban Militia: 65%  Urban Cavalry: 35% (Honor Guard for Arnold of Bescia drawn from this, cavalry not that useful in siege)
Commander: Fortis Calafatus, calling on known competent veterans of the Second Crusade (particularly the Siege of Damascus and other Siege battles) as aides.
Duration: Summer of 1152.
Conditions:If Tivoli surrenders before more than half the season is finished, Sack instead of Raise and must pay tribute to the Roman Senate of the value of [appropriate wealth value, nothing unsustainable] every season, to be put in the Senatorial treasury.
Note: All costs will be funded by Fortis own wealth, and thus he will take the lions share of the wealth if successful.
Note: Assure that Arnold of Brescia has his Honor Guard with him at all times.
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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2012, 01:19:32 AM »

Response to Fortis Calafatus - Speech #2

You would so freely give the hospitality of Rome to that German Wolf? Consul Calafatus, King Frederick is no gracious man. He would take all we have to offer and more, and make a gift of our bones to our enemies. Frederick claims lordship over all of Italy, and yet he has no right to any of it, let alone our fair city. Would you have some German as our Caesar? Rome is for the Romans! Any man who sets himself against the good of the city is no Roman. If Pierleoni is one of us, as you say, why then does he hide behind his walls? Why does he not come out and speak plainly? People of Rome, I will tell you why! He colludes with our enemies only to enrich himself! He is a greedy man who would set himself above all others, if he could. He will reap what he has sown, as will any who defy our City. As Tivoli will suffer as the strength of Roman arms overcomes her. Consul Calafatus, I pray to God Almighty that you find wisdom on the battlefield, when you are faced with the spite of those who would see us fall.

A Private aside to Senator Di Fontane

Bernardo, do not take too harshly my words on the floor. I understand your heart is in the right place, and indeed, I agree with you. If a scheme can be enacted to accrue funds for the betterment of the City in a way that does not unduly burden the citizens, you will have me at your side. You are a wise man, if a touch eager. But I think your youthful energy is something our City needs. Our Consuls are wise men too, but the burden of their offices hangs heavily on their shoulders, and perhaps they are not so suited as they once were. Indeed, if ever you seek to relieve them of their burden you would also find me at your side. I will always do what is best for Rome, Bernardo, and I see that so too will you. Think on what I have said.
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2012, 08:04:12 PM »

The update is largely complete and will be posted sometime tomorrow afternoon/night if there are no objections.  If you are making any sizable changes to your orders past this point, please PM me or post here so that I'll see them, because I will no longer be re-reading old orders posts.

Answers to letters will be posted sometime after the update, possibly the next day (not sure yet).

I have decided that updating the population figures each season is somewhat of a chore, so I will do that annually* instead.  The population figures on the first page, therefore, will not change with the update.

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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2012, 08:20:28 PM »

FYI: I PMed Sarisa a few hours ago so he should know turn I's almost over. Just for the record to save you time so you don't need to send him anything Polycarp! (in the event you were considering).
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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2012, 08:32:02 PM »

I'm not going to get into the practice of sending reminder PMs; if someone is out for a turn (or longer), it's really not a big deal.  That said, I don't mean to discourage people who have still yet to post orders or want to edit their orders, I was just stating that if they do this, it's best to post or PM instead of editing previous posts because I might miss those.  It is absolutely acceptable to change orders right up to the deadline.
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« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2012, 12:36:55 AM »

No problem, that's a great policy; I just figured it would be a good idea to notify for the first turn, seeing as how it is the first turn.
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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2012, 09:50:46 PM »

Anno Domini MCLII - Turn 2
Summer has passed into Autumn…
In autumn, laborers take to the farmlands to plow the fields and sow the winter wheat, while in the hills grapes and olives must be picked and pressed.  This is a busy time in Rome, for much work needs to be done between the withering summer and the onset of winter.  The wealthy return to the city from their country estates this season, and the Church prepares for the celebration of All Saints’ Day.  On the water, merchants hurry to complete their routes before the winter storms make the sea treacherous, and citizens watch the Tiber warily, for floods come most often in autumn.

Our Consuls: None (elections pending)
Our Pope: Eugene III
Our Rage: Simmering

News from Abroad

Travelers from Sicily report that the Moors are on the move in Africa, and that some infidel prince of the west has taken the port city known as Bugia.  Now Saracen fights Saracen - would that all our unbeliever enemies be led to such folly!

Manuel Komnenos, the Emperor of the Greeks, has brought the Serbs to heel in the conclusion of a campaign against the Serbian Grand Prince Uroš II and his Hungarian allies.  Uroš has accepted Greek vassalage, and Manuel’s army has returned from Hungary with a fortune in spoils and plunder.

Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen of France, has had her marriage with the King annulled and has quickly remarried Henry FitzEmpress, Duke of Normandy and Count of Anjou.  Through his new wife’s inheritance, Henry now controls more of France than the French King, and is known to have designs on the throne of England as well.

News of Latium

Disaster has fallen upon the Tusculani.  It has been revealed that Count Tolomeo II of Tusculum is utterly bankrupt, his family’s wealth squandered.  He has sold the fortress of Tusculum, the family seat for centuries, to Pope Eugene III, and has been forced to sell or mortgage many of the house’s other properties.  Many have been bought up by the Frangipani.  Never has the star of the Tusculani been so low.

The markets and courts of Latium are aflame with the news of the fall of Tivoli, which was sacked and ruined by Romans and Subiacans in August.  Though most of the citizenry took refuge within the citadel, the people of Tivoli are left with a town of ashes and fields burned to cinders just before harvest.  The communes of Latium have been shaken, alarmed by this sudden and savage assault.  Will there be retribution for this act?  Who can explain the total failure of the Papal alliance to lift the fateful siege?  Regardless of the answers, the people of Tivoli have a hard winter ahead of them…

News of Rome

Consul Fortis Calafatus has made a triumphant return from Tivoli, bearing costly trinkets from the Cardinal-Bishop’s own palace.  His deed has emboldened the Romans in a time of great uncertainty – Roman arms are again victorious!  Nevertheless, some of Rome’s more thoughtful citizens have expressed concerns about the effectiveness of Rome’s mob-army in the field, questions that must surely be addressed.  Fortis Calafatus has gained 2 Popularity and 5 Wealth.  See the campaign report below for details.

The attempts of House Calafatus to put Tre Fontane under protection came to an abrupt halt when the monks refused to let the met-at-arms into the abbey.  The Abbot himself, Hugo of Beauvais – also the Cardinal of Ostia and one of the Pope’s aides – was absent, residing at Tusculum with the Pope, but the senior monks refused to let any armed men from Rome in their compound.  Though not quite a castle, the abbey’s strong walls dissuaded the armsmen from proceeding any further, as surely storming the abbey would run contrary to the claim of “protecting” it.

The construction of a chapel in the Basilica of St. Mary Major has been undertaken by Senator Domenico DeRosa.  Rumor has it that some foreign artists of high stature have been hired for the project.

Mob violence has been mostly absent over the summer, not so much because of cooling tensions but because the dreadful heat makes civil disorder very tiring business.  Riots are expected to pick up after harvest.  An abortive attempt was made by some residents to seize the Lateran, but they were quickly driven off by Papal mercenaries and pro-Eugene sympathizers.

The Gates of Janus Open!

Rome was at war this season past, and herein are detailed the accomplishments of Roman arms.

Senatorial Inquests

Senators that requested information or launched endeavors have the results of their efforts listed here.  This information is private, but you may certainly choose to share it with the Senate.

Notes

  • If you believe an error has been made or an order has been ignored, PM me.
  • This is an election season.  Please do not post in this thread until I have made my subsequent election post.  You may now post.
  • The maps and units lists on the front page will be updated tonight; please be patient. Done.
  • Responses to letters will be posted when I get around to it, either tonight or tomorrow. All responses have been posted.  There may be more letters for the Consuls once they are chosen.
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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2012, 10:06:36 PM »

Consular Election of 1152
Senators, it is time to decide who will lead our glorious city in the coming year!

A mob approaches...

A crowd of people, including many veterans of the Siege of Tivoli, have gathered in front of the Senate's meeting-place.  They demand the re-election of Fortis Calafatus!

Election Rules

All PCs are eligible for Consular status, though a character who wins an election may choose not to accept the position if he so desires.  All PCs are eligible to cast a ballot, though casting a ballot is not mandatory.

Each character has a number of votes equal to his Influence score.  When you cast a ballot, you must choose how these votes are allotted.  You may spend all your votes on one candidate or split votes between candidates however you wish.  A ballot should be in a red OOC box like this one, and be in this format:

Election of 1152

Your Senator’s Name

4 votes to Senator X
2 votes to Senator Y

The ballot is not secret.  Who voted for whom is in-character information known by all.  The whole Senate, all 100 members, takes part in this vote; our game simulates this using Influence, meaning that when you “cast a ballot” it actually represents your character and his friends and/or family actively cajoling and convincing NPC senators to vote your way.  This is a tedious process of pandering speeches, cloying flattery, empty promises, and boring dinner parties, and is by definition not a private matter.

Bribery, specifically the expenditure of Wealth to buy votes, is permitted.  Bribery will alter the final count of votes, depending on how much Wealth was spent.  One point of Wealth “steals” one vote from a candidate of your choice and gives it to another candidate of your choice.  It will be obvious that people were bribed because the final total won’t match who players actually voted for, but there will be no direct indication of who bribed them.

If the bribery is discovered, there will be a scandal resulting in a loss of Influence.  The chances of a bribe becoming a scandal are 10% for each point of Wealth spent.  Note that a scandal does not mean the bribe was unsuccessful – it is still possible to win an election by bribery despite a scandal, but the loss of Influence may make it difficult to hold on to power.

If you choose to bribe, it should ONLY be done by sending me a PM indicating how much you are spending and who the bribed Senators are supposed to vote for.  If you post a bribe in this thread, it will not be accepted, and I will laugh at you.  Bribes are non-refundable!

Until the vote is complete and the Consuls are elected, you may not post OOC orders.  You may still talk to PCs, makes senate speeches, and write/respond to letters to NPCs.

The two players with the most votes (after Bribery) are elected Consuls.  The Consul who receives the most votes has the privilege of deciding which Consul, external or internal, he wishes to be.  Ties will be resolved in favor of who has the most Influence or, failing that, a coin flip.

Final Caveat: This system is totally untested.  If it turns out to have obvious problems or bribery turns out to be hugely overpowered, I reserve the right to retcon the election and try again with better rules.  I promise I will only do this if it becomes a complete clusterfuck.
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2012, 11:44:51 PM »

Bernardo DiFontane; Speech to the Senate


Esteemed Senators!

I have returned, as I promised last season, with the results of the inquest regarding the funding of our great city. Unfortunately, the ongoing unrest inside the city, the continued disorder has made this accounting incomplete. But, from this disorder may arise the seeds of our soon-to-be-great empire, the base of a united Italy once more!

My first proposal is that we immediately appropriate the abandoned commercial lots and buildings which the papacy and their dogs have been renting. They are no longer here to collect the rent, and with God's help, they shall never be again in a position to do so. If the Senate appoints a senatorial prefect for these matters, we may once again have wealth flowing into our coffers.

On the matter of prefects, this brings me to my second point. For too long have the courthouses and judgement seats of the city been laying abandoned beneath the heel of the clergy. I propose we bring back the Roman Law, from the twelve tables to the Corpus Juris, along with the judges, prefects, and law-keepers that entails.

Bernardo DiFontane, speech to the public

CITIZENS! Who among you knows the sting of a back-pedaled agreement? The annoyance of a blocking, abandoned cart in the roadway? The injustice of an assault gone without retribution?

The sacking of Tivoli has shown us one thing; that Romans can take care of Romans! But good people, as effective and as respected as the mobs are, you have families, you have work, and lives! The mob cannot last forever. Who shall take up the mantle of keeping the law once the brave fellows from the Tivoli siege return to their families?

Bring back the judges! Bring back the courts! Restore the handling of the law of the people to those to whom it belongs. To ROMANS!

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« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2012, 02:42:57 AM »

Domenico DeRosa's response to Bernardo DiFontane; Speech to the Senate

I must agree with my right and honorable colleague Bernardo DiFontane - the Pope's lands should be the property of the right and just government of Rome epitomized by our glorious Senate. However, I must point out that the former master of Rome allowed the defenses of the city to languish in poverty and ruin. Our military, though gallant and right-hearted, has also languished from years of neglect. With this in mind, I ask, nay beseech, the good and noble Senators assembled here to appropriate twenty percent of the revenue collected from the (new) rents and place the monies in a special fund that will help the government improve the defenses of the Eternal City. We, as the duly appointed leaders of Rome, must ensure that none on the Peninsula will ever contemplate attacking our glorious city - for the only  conclusion of such an endeavor would bring ruination upon the attacker. We must begin today and ensure the safety of Rome!
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« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2012, 02:51:36 AM »

Election of 1152

Roberto Basile

5 votes to Senator Basile


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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2012, 05:01:36 AM »

Germany is far away, and replies from there will not come until next turn - if any replies are sent.  All other letters are here, save those for the consuls, because we don't have any (yet).

A Letter to Roberto Basile

Roberto,

I am pleased to hear that you are well, and have not been among the casualties of Roman lawlessness.  Truly you chose a poor time to make that city your home, unless your love of intrigue is now far greater than your love of the sea!

I grow old, as does my liege, but both of us have the comfort of sons now grown to adulthood.  Alas, the King has lost his three eldest, but as you may know the fourth was crowned as his heir last year over the bitter words of your dear Pope Eugene.  As for the German, my King believes that he does not intend to stop at Rome, but will continue southward to invade our own lands.  Robert Drengot, once Prince of Capua, has fled to the German court; it was he who convinced the Pisans to put Amalfi to the sack, and he will doubtless try to convince the Germans to help him back to his estates.

I have conveyed your words to His Majesty, but he has not wished to scribe a reply as of yet.  I do not think he sees the friendship of the turbulent Romans as the asset you imagine it to be.  He does not consider you much more than a pack of peasants and peddlers pretending at sovereign power, and does not treat your overtures seriously.  Nevertheless, I believe he is listening to the news from Germany carefully, and perhaps in the years to come his plans will include you.

John

To the Senate of Rome

Honored Senators,

We have heard the good tidings of your victory over Tivoli and thank God for your success.  The people of Rieti have not forgotten the dark year of 1149 when the vicious Normans burned our city, but neither have we forgotten that your Commune and the generous and wise Patrician Pierleoni helped us rebuild our homes and our livelihoods.  Our beloved city would still be a memory without Roman aid.

We pledge our continued friendship and pray that God will frustrate the evil designs of the enemies of the Roman people.

May God protect eternal Rome,
The Honorable Rectors of the Commune of Rieti

Arnold of Brescia addresses the masses

Yes, Romans, I was there at Tivoli when the Consul’s army stormed the gates, and I saw the blood shed by Tiburtini and Romans alike.  A Christian cannot love war, but a Christian must fear God and obey His commands, and respect the worldly power of man's authority vested in our ancient Senate.

But I say to you - What shocked me more than any bloodshed was when I walked into the palace of the Cardinal in that city, and saw his silken sheets and gilt furniture, his silver slippers and gemmed tiara, and all the accoutrements of his den of hedonism and vice!  A man of God indeed!  And where was this Cardinal, this Prince of the Church?  Gone, fled from the city, not a finger lifted to its defense.  This man gorges himself on roasts upon silver platters and then tells us, his lips stained with French wine, that we must be charitable and moderate and chaste, that we must live for the glory of God.  But where is the charity and moderation of such a man?  Where is his chastity, his bravery?  Who can believe the falsehoods, the ridiculous lies of a man like this who claims to give the sacraments of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit?  Such a man will never receive eternal life in Christ, but will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.  Let him repent of his sins and walk beside me, in the poverty of Christ and the Apostles, and forsake the evils that Satan has inspired in the clergy.  Let him cast his net as Christ did – cast his net for the souls of men, and not for their coins!

And the crowd goes wild...

Letter to Fortis Calafatus

Herr Calafatus,

I remember your service and wonder why you commit yourself to the cause of these shopkeeper-senators I have heard about – the cities of Italy take far too much liberty with the rights of the Emperor.  Verona, the greatest city of this land, constantly and illegally gnaws at the lands and properties of the Church and my own vassals.  The Italians are filled with headstrong pride, and it will take a strong hand to rein them in.

I have heard only tales of this Brescian monk but they are not at all positive.  It is said he has been exiled and condemned in council, and his writings are to be burned by the decree of the Church.  I know nothing else of him, but that is enough – you should chase him from the city at once, if he cannot be handed over to proper authority.

I have of course heard the rumors of the King’s intentions to cross the mountains, and I strongly believe them to be true.  I do not know whether you witnessed the King’s deeds when he was on crusade – he was the Duke of Swabia, then – but it was his determination and bravery that caused his uncle Conrad to choose him as his successor over Conrad’s own young son.  He will not abandon this crown he wishes for anything.

When the King comes southward, which he shall, I will speak to him then and tell him that there are those in Rome who are loyal and of good character.  I encourage you to aid him when he arrives, for the King rewards loyalty and may grant you great favors if you can end this rift with His Holiness and get rid of this noxious heretic.  Certainly I will vouch for you.  My family and I have always been true servants of the Hohenstaufen and I pray that you will follow this just and godly course as well. 

Hermann von Baden, Markgraf von Verona

Letter to Vittorio Manzinni

“Interesting” is perhaps not the word I would use.  I am certain that the Pope will try to entice Frederick to invade my lands, together with those traitors that have defected to his court.

I am always set upon the acquisition of wealth for my domains and I welcome your gifts.  I wonder, however, what it is Rome really offers besides insurrection and malaria.  You show us pottery, and it is well enough, but I have the pottery of Athens and Cairo.  If you wish a trade deal, here is one: if the Romans can trade something which will put new gold in my coffers each year, I will put the ships of the Romans under the same protection my own merchants enjoy, warded from harm as they are by the reprisals of my mighty fleet.

Roger, King of Sicily
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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2012, 06:09:18 PM »

I'm going to set the deadline for the election on Wednesday, February 8th.  Of course, if all the votes are in sooner (or at least enough of them to know the result), then the election will be finished sooner, and we'll be able to get on with Turn 2 sooner.

I didn't mention it explicitly, but yes, you can vote for yourself.

Some people have been asking me of how things like the the siege of Tivoli are decided.  There's a lot of randomness involved; the Romans failed their rolls to breach until the very last week before they would have abandoned the siege, for instance.  The units do have some stats, the most important ones being morale and discipline, but these are heavily affected by conditions like leadership, motivation, training, even the weather.  Unit "quality" is important but it doesn't mean that superior forces will always win.  History is full of battles that turned around on some fluke or misfortune, and the same will happen here.  Sometimes these misfortunes will favor you, and sometimes they won't.  The essential point is that war in this game is not a science, and there is always a considerable element of risk involved when "the Gates of Janus open."
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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2012, 07:57:08 PM »

Working on a response here:

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Regarding the Food, Polycarp-From my experience, what return would 1 wealth investment in food give when sold in Winter in Rome? This will help me decide regarding the expenditure of 2 wealth to get the food home... (very expensive Captain).
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